Radical Honesty, Real Healing

What if the hardest conversation you’ll ever have is the one in the mirror? We sit down with consultant and podcast host Varsey Laurelle to unpack how radical honesty, emotional intelligence, and a refusal to hide behind small talk can transform a life, a relationship, and even an organization’s culture. Her story moves from the weight of being the eldest daughter to building a chosen community, from a near-death birth to the clarity that ended her marriage, and from shame-filled self-talk to daily practices of forgiveness, integrity, and courage.

Varsey brings a rare mix of candor and warmth. She shows how humor helps people open up, why difficult conversations are acts of love, and how to set boundaries without burning bridges. We walk through her step-by-step framework for “brave, uncomfortable AF” talks: start with facts, name the story you’re telling yourself, share the feelings, create space for their perspective, and listen to understand. Along the way, we dig into acceptance—of ourselves, of parents who may never change, and of friends who show us who they are through consistency more than words.

If you’ve felt stuck in people-pleasing, exhausted by surface-level connections, or torn between peace and truth, this conversation is a compass. Expect insights on self-love, empathy, clear communication, and why proximity to you should be earned by behavior, not history. You’ll leave with language for hard moments, rituals for reflection, and the mantra that threads it all together: you are entirely up to you. If this resonated, tap follow, share it with a friend who needs courage today, and leave a quick review so more people can find these conversations.

Transcript

Radical Authenticity And Hard Conversations

Roots, Family, And Chosen Community

Dalia 0:12

Welcome to the She Suite Society, a community where women from all backgrounds come together, share their stories, support one another, and reveal the unfiltered reality of our lives. I'm your host and empowerment Sherpa, Dahlia, and this podcast exists to give voice and space to women whose experiences might otherwise go unheard. Today I'm joined by Varset Lorel, founder of Varsey Laurelle Consulting, host of the Recorded Vulnerabilities Podcast, and someone who's built her career around transforming organizational cultures through trust, empathy, and action. With a BA in mass communications and marketing from Wright State University and an MBA from Ashland University, Varset combines business psychology with human-centered strategies to help leaders and teams unlock their full potential. But what makes Farse truly remarkable isn't just her impressive credentials or her work curating transformational workshops. It's her radical authenticity and her aversion to small talk that she's turned into a genuine superpower. Her story is one of brave conversations. She's mastered the art of having the difficult discussions most people avoid. What makes Farse's insights so powerful is her understanding that difficult conversations are acts of love. Through therapy, divorce, and deep self-discovery work, she's learned that authenticity isn't about being comfortable. It's about being real, even when it makes you sweat. Her journey offers a roadmap for anyone trying to stop living for others and start living for themselves. Whether you're struggling with setting boundaries, navigating a major life transition, or simply tired of pretending everything's fine when it's not, Farse's wisdom about emotional intelligence, clear communication, and the ongoing journey of self-love will resonate deeply. So let's start.

Varsey Laurelle 1:55

Where'd you grow up? Um I would say mostly Columbus, Ohio. This question is always very convoluted. It's never simple. Um in South Florida. But I went to school here mostly. Here mostly? Here mostly. Columbus, Ohio, here mostly. So I'm a Midwestern Southern girl. Very nice. And do you have siblings? I do. I am the oldest daughter. I am the sixth generation oldest daughter on my mom's side. And so, um, trauma. No, I'm just playing. So I have a uh younger sister uh who's seven years younger. And then I have uh on my dad's side, I have a younger brother and sister who are 10 and 7 years younger than me.

Dalia 2:42

Very nice.

Varsey Laurelle 2:43

By far.

Dalia 2:43

Are you all close?

Varsey Laurelle 2:46

Define close. I mean, that it's not how I would want it to be, ideally, the idea in my head of what a sister and brother are, but we're we always have each other's back and support each other. And um we visit each other, um, but we're not in each other's daily life.

Dalia 3:05

Okay.

Varsey Laurelle 3:06

Yeah.

Dalia 3:07

So who is in your daily life?

Varsey Laurelle 3:11

My kiddos, my babies. Um, I have an I have an 11-year-old daughter, and I have a six-year-old son. Um, so they are in my life daily. Um, I have a best friend from college who lives in Houston. She is a part of my daily life, and daily, not literally, but just like we keep in touch. We know what's going on. Um, I have a couple of close friends here locally. That again, you know, as adults, you can't see people too much. You can't talk to them much. There's lots of group texts and screenshots. And, you know, we celebrate and we celebrate each other. We're really good at that. Really good at that, and supporting another, I guess. 100%. Yeah. With that, it's so funny because yeah, you're right. I guess I think of celebration as support too. But yeah, it's celebration and support. And my grandma, my grandma is 89 years old. She is the love of my life, and she is local as well. So she's in she's in my daily life.

Dalia 4:15

So that's nice. So you have a good network of folks that you're around or have in your energy.

Varsey Laurelle 4:22

I have I have a great community of people. How'd you get them? I chose them. I handpicked them.

Dalia 4:30

You handpicked them.

Varsey Laurelle 4:33

Oh, honey. Learning myself and what I need in community and learning what I can give in community and being okay with all those things. So, like getting rid of the shoulds, Dahlia. Right. Like, that I had that I have like oh, because we've been friends so long, or you know, like no, no more of that.

Dalia 5:06

Yeah, the time doesn't matter.

Varsey Laurelle 5:08

It does not, it does not quality, it's the quality of where you are in life, and that changes. You know, I used to say no new friends, but all of my friends currently that I'm in community with, except for my hype my college friend, I've known for less than seven years. Yeah, they're new friends, but they feel like a lifetime. Um, yeah, so I think for me it was very much about identifying what do I need and then accepting people as they are. You know, like not putting the expectation of a friend does this and a friend does that, or you have to be have to be able to kick it with you at the bar and have deep conversation. Like it's not all the things.

Dalia 5:48

Yeah, they can all have different roles within your life.

Varsey Laurelle 5:51

Yeah.

Dalia 5:51

You feel that you have different roles in all their lives.

Varsey Laurelle 6:00

I'd be interested to hear what they say because I I think, you know, as I'm like scanning my brain, I think I show up for everyone the same. Um I'm the I'm the coach, like I'm the guide, like I'm the like, oh, let's get some wisdom and some insight. Like, that's what people lean on me for. I'm also the fun vibes. So like you can call me and be like, hey, let's go to the club, let's go to the bar. Like, yes, I'm still that girl, like party girl forever. Um I'm I'm not the friend that's gonna be like babysit your kids. I'm probably not that friend. I mostly only like my kids. Uh, but I think I show up for everyone consistently. I don't know, I gotta put it in the group chat. I'm gonna ask now.

Dalia 6:46

I just wondered. No, you're pretty self-aware, and I know that it's fun, it's sometimes you do have not you, but one has that same thing that they bring to each group that they're because that's the that's what they need. That's what the energy costs.

Varsey Laurelle 6:59

Right.

Dalia 6:59

So what do you what is a day in the life of Varsai look like now? What do you do? What do you do for work? What do you do for fun?

Roles We Play For Our Friends

Varsey Laurelle 7:12

Let's see. So for work, what I do is um mostly public speaking. So um I'm in this shift where I am leaning more on the comedy aspect of my public speaking. Um, and that's been really exciting. And so lots of uh public speaking, MCing, workshops, all around like clarity, curiosity, um, intentionality, but like laughter and joy. Um, that's what I do for work. Um, I have a podcast, I have a newsletter, so it's a lot of speaking, which is fun.

Dalia 7:48

Let's talk about your podcast. It's called Reported Vulnerabilities, right?

Varsey Laurelle 7:52

Yes.

Dalia 7:52

And what do you talk about on that? Besides actual vulnerabilities.

Varsey Laurelle 7:58

Yeah. I mean, so it's it's me for about 20 to 30 minutes, really kind of unpacking scenarios that have happened in my life that normally don't get talked about out loud. So it's really me trying to normalize our humanness and create a safe place where people can see themselves in me and relate and hopefully like heal the world through community.

Dalia 8:24

Yeah.

Recorded Vulnerabilities Podcast

Varsey Laurelle 8:25

You know? Um, that's yeah, it's it's brought a lot of joy and it's brought a lot of healing for me as well. It's been it's been really beautiful. Um, and so, you know, fun, fun looks like sometimes it's hanging on the couch, watching Love is Blind, which I'm really late to when I just got into, but it's like I'm obsessed. It's obsessive, I think. Oh my god, I'm so obsessed. Um, and then sometimes it's um going on walks with friends. I like to hike, I like to drink wine. Did I already say that? Um I like to um be I love being in community having really real ass conversations. Like I like that is so fun to me. Small talk isn't easy for you. Oh, I don't like small talk. How'd you know it? Oh, it's so cringe. Well, you know what when somebody tries to do small talk with you? It's so funny because I literally can't do it. So the version, my authentic self, I don't even try. My small talk is like people laugh at me all the time. Like, Barcy small talk is like, so what happened to you in your life? Like, why are you this way? Like, I'm going deep. And I know I've met my people, my community, because they can they can match that, right? Like, we're all of a sudden vibing within five minutes.

Dalia 9:50

Yeah, because small talk is just a waste of air in everybody's talk. What is that anyway? Why are you being so nice? It's either you won't face your own demons or you won't face yourself in the mirror. It's like you cannot somehow live in whatever version of reality you've created for yourself because of why too scary?

Varsey Laurelle 10:10

That's so interesting. That you're right. I've never associated small talk with kind of like a dissociation, essentially, is what I'm hearing. That's how I feel.

Dalia 10:17

What I feel is there another reason people would engage in small talk? I I really don't get that.

Varsey Laurelle 10:24

You nailed it. You nailed it because I have never thought of that. But when I think about the people that are really good at small talk, surface. They're surface people.

Dalia 10:35

Yeah. I genuinely don't know anybody that does small talk. Maybe I do, but I don't talk to them, so I wouldn't know. Yeah. But it's because I'm so averse to that. I don't, I don't want to talk to you. Maybe you're the same way too. I don't want to talk to you if you can't face yourself in some capacity.

Varsey Laurelle 10:59

100%. So, so you know, I'm I'm gonna put, you know, I put my business out there, but like recorded vulnerabilities. The first person I thought of was my biological dad. He is a master at small talk. Like everyone knows him, but no one knows him.

Fun, Community, And Small Talk Aversion

Dalia 11:13

Wow. Say a little bit more. Nothing more to say. Nothing more to say. That's the that's full set and stop. Like, when did you realize that about him? Like, when did that become a reality for you?

Varsey Laurelle 11:28

Last year I really dug deep into therapy. And I thought, well, a couple years ago, I thought it was just about grief because I was really having a hard time fully releasing my divorce and and what was and the reality of it. And grief. Grief is very connected to acceptance, if you don't know that. So it was it it morphed into accepting what the fuck is. Like this is what it is. And you need to accept the ex, the mom, the sister, yourself, the dad. And so I realized that I was, you know, back to your sibling question. I realized that I had all these like fake characteristics, like I call them Cosby show characteristics of like what a dad should be, what a mom should be. Not because I saw it in real life, not because that's what they were. It was just my idea in my head. And then people fell short of that, and now they're a bad this, they're a bad that, including myself. And when I unpacked with therapy who my dad was, that's when I realized, oh, wait a minute. I'm doing a disservice to him and our relationship by not just accepting what this man has shown me to be for 44 years, right? Like he has been consistently himself, and I have been consistently rejecting it and fighting it, right? So, like, what is it, you know? So, like, this is what he is. And that's when I realized, oh, this is why I can't get community with him. Because I don't talk small. I talk big, and my big talk frustrates him. His small talk frustrates me. And I would get frustrated because he lives in South Florida. So I'd go down there and everyone knows him. You know, we're in the store or the gas station. People would come into town, man, your dad was the best. And I'm like, how is he the best? I'm like, oh, because you're getting these little drops of like he's an extrovert. Like, I definitely get my personality.

Dalia 13:24

You know what's funny? It's like everybody knows him, but doesn't really know him saying, but I feel like you have everybody knows you, but they actually know you. Come on now. What a difference, like, how crazy is that? Do you think if he ever understood, do you think he could ever understand how to do what you do?

Varsey Laurelle 13:46

No, I don't think so. You know, I mean, I I what's the likelihood? What's the probability? You know, I mean, I think he's like 70 plus now. It doesn't matter. I'm just gonna accept who he is and what we are.

Dalia 14:04

Yeah, you're not gonna worry about it. It's not my nothing to worry about, but if he catches on, good for him. If he doesn't, it's no, it doesn't matter either way. You've accepted. So you attribute the fact of you learning to accept everything and everyone for exactly as they are in the situations as they are, mostly to therapy that you've gone to I think I would say so.

Varsey Laurelle 14:29

And I'm not saying, now listen, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all that you said. I'm not accepting everything and everyone or a journey. That's the goal. Yeah. Right? And I think it I think it'll be a lifetime journey. Oh, yeah. Because people are harder than, and I got my traumas that I bring to it, and it's some things I just can't accept. And you just won't be in community with me, right? Because that's where I am. Um, but you know what you know what those boundaries are. 100%.

Dalia 14:56

I think that's hard. Yeah. Maybe that's where you start. Like, what is the hard line? And then everything's from there. You can start. Oh, I love that. Yeah, yeah.

Small Talk As Avoidance And Acceptance

Varsey Laurelle 15:04

And for me, it's consistency, truth telling, and um self-awareness, what really just emotional intelligence, right? Because that's gonna take up empathy, social awareness, and self-awareness. So those are my those are my baseline needs.

Dalia 15:26

Do you ask that of your close friends and your family? Or is it more you you hold yourself to those standards and then just sort of accept everybody else that you've chosen to accept?

Varsey Laurelle 15:40

That's a really good question. So I hold myself to those standards 100%. And uh, it's kind of like a tuning, right? Like I'm I'm listening to who you tell me you are by your actions, and then I get to decide the proximity you have to me. Ooh, based on that.

Dalia 16:00

That's really good. That's really good. And when they try to cross those boundaries, how do you handle that?

Varsey Laurelle 16:08

Oh, that's where it gets so awkward.

Dalia 16:11

I know that's right to ask because I deal with the same issues.

Varsey Laurelle 16:15

How do you handle that? You know, it so I teach this workshop on brave, uncomfortable AF conversations. And every time I get into this situation, I have to then have a brave, uncomfortable AF conversation. That I cringe all the way through, that my heart is racing all the way through. And you end up having these people the people that are the least self-aware are the ones you end up having to have with these with because they ain't reading the room. Right? Which makes it even more uncomfortable because Yeah. Yeah. So I lean into it. I I mean, I just I lean into it. And what I will say, most people are always appreciative of the conversation and me leaning into it and not just ghosting them and acting weird, because that's what most people do. Um and so I don't come with shame. I don't come with, you know, you suck and I don't. Um, which might be true. No, I'm just playing. Um, I I come with, you know, the framework is be factual. So like just tell the truth, you know, and I always like to frame it. Hey, I'm coming to you with because out of love, out of care. Like if I didn't care, I wouldn't come to you. Like I would have ghosted you. Right. So this is this is love. This is what love looks like to me. Um state with state state the facts. Um relate to the story, you know, relate to the story I'm telling myself. Right? Um, accept the feelings, right? So accept and share the feelings that I'm having, right? So like um I can't even think of an example right now. And then um listen. Well create space, create space for them to now talk, right? So like verify. Like, hey, let me know what you're thinking. I said a lot, like give me give me what you got. What are you thinking?

Dalia 18:14

Yeah, yeah.

Varsey Laurelle 18:15

And then like engage in listening. Just shut up and listen.

Dalia 18:20

Yeah.

Therapy, Grief, And Accepting Parents

Varsey Laurelle 18:21

And not to combat, not to have an argument, truly listening. Because that's to understand.

Dalia 18:28

Absolutely. A lot of people try to engage into conversations where they just want to be heard and not want to actually understand. Uh, so that's a great point. So let's dig in a little bit more to some of these personal sort of hills that you mountains, whatever you however you view it, uh that you've conquered in your life. What are some of those peak moments that have been what I like to consider before and afterlife? Like before you were this way in life, and then this moment happened, and now you are this way in life. What is a a peak moment that you've had and how did it change you?

Varsey Laurelle 19:08

I think, I mean, a peak moment for me was when was um deciding to end my marriage.

Dalia 19:17

I had a feeling, because I know you and I talked before, and that was also a peak moment for me, and I think that some people really need to hear this. Can you tell us that story a little bit?

Varsey Laurelle 19:27

Yeah, I think one, I hold a lot of I hold a lot of grace and and compassion and love for myself. I I continue to try to. Um, because there's aftermath to these decisions that aren't ideal. Um, that I that I based on the varsity that was, I made the best decisions for myself, right? And so I'm thinking about the shame that we can get into of like, how the hell did I even choose this mofo? You know, you know, and so it's like one grace for yourself. Yeah. And and how long were you together? So we were together for um, I'm gonna maybe about seven to nine years, you'd think I'd know. Um, time is elusive. Time is a loss. Time is elusive. So we were dating for about a year and a half and then married for the rest of it. Um, we um, you know, we never communicated enough to be able to grow together.

Dalia 20:31

Yeah, that's powerful.

Varsey Laurelle 20:33

Yeah.

Dalia 20:34

You think that was something that morphed, or do you think it was always that way?

Varsey Laurelle 20:39

I think it was always that way.

Dalia 20:44

Well, and it grew. And it grew. It grew. But I I noticed that sometimes having kids does change the way that partners communicate because then all of a sudden they're all trying to embody, whether consciously or subconsciously, their parents, whatever they saw their parents do. And it's all it's almost like now you've got a house full of parents, and nobody really nobody was raised the same way. Nobody's in the same room. So so it tends to change how you communicate because you identify differently.

Varsey Laurelle 21:18

Yeah, I can relate to that. I think, I think uh, I figured if it was Michelle or Barack, but one of them said, like, it's like toddlers come into the world and it's their job to ruin the marriage. That's how kids show up. And I was like, damn, that's true. Like, that is exactly how it shows. Like, if you can survive that era, then you're probably good. For me, and I yes, the kids, but I think for me, I didn't know who the hell I was.

Dalia 21:45

You lost yourself. Well, I never knew myself. Oh.

Varsey Laurelle 21:50

Yeah, I think I was always very people pleasing and and and I had like abandonment and rejection issues. So like I was always just contorting to whatever I thought you wanted me to be. So that's how I showed up. I mean, maybe is that a pick me? Like that's how I showed up.

Dalia 22:05

I showed up like No, that's somebody that's been through trauma, and it's actually a trauma response. I uh I see you. So when did you realize that? When did you realize that? That would have been I would have I before you got divorced, right?

Boundaries, Emotional Intelligence, Proximity

Varsey Laurelle 22:23

I think that was in the healing in the midst. So I remember we got separated. Uh so I think the big catapult thing is there was always things, right? We're very, it was very tumultuous. It was hot or cold. Um, and then I had my son, who's now six, and I had a near-death experience after labor and delivery. Oh, I mean, you know, pints of blood, you know, having to like it was it was it was an ordeal. Um and we don't have enough time for that uh that story. But you look at life differently when you see the light. Like, literally, you're like, oh shit, what am I doing? So I remember being back home, definitely had postpartum, didn't know it at the time, and we got into some stupid argument about putting the baby on the counter in his seat or something like that, that exploded. And uh we separated. And during the separation, we were trying to date, not trying to date, we kept going back and forth. And my therapist, different therapist, she asked me, like, what do you need? And I was like, I need clarity, which I didn't even know myself. I've always needed clarity. This is literally what my whole brand is built on. It's like I need to know where I stand, where are we going? Yeah, right. Yeah. So she's like, you need to ask. So we had a conversation, and I remember this, like, oh, so, so vividly. And I'm talking to him, and I'm like, listen, I had a pen and paper, child. Okay, I was not playing. I was like, what do you need for this to work? And he's like, Listen, all the things that I need to do for this to work. I was like, great, read it back to him. And then I was like, All right, what do you feel like you need to do for this to work? And he just was like, Gen Z stare or whatever, like, I just told you what needed to happen for this to work.

unknown 24:18

Right.

Varsey Laurelle 24:19

And it was like, light bulb.

Dalia 24:21

Yeah, yeah.

Varsey Laurelle 24:22

Well, I've been the one contorting it, da da da da da. And I could do that for the rest of my life, and we would be in the same place because it takes two. Um, and my daughter was five, my son was six. We split. Um left the house, um, moved in with my cousin, who was also going through a divorce. So it's like two-bedroom, two-bath apartment. Me and my kids, my friend gave me a king bed, me and my kids are sleeping in the same bed. You know, she's on the couch, her teenage son's in a room. It was not ideal. From outward appearances, it felt like failing.

Dalia 25:01

I know, right?

Varsey Laurelle 25:02

COVID hit, school's closed, daycare's closed. Um, and I ended up getting in a situation where I um had experienced some uh suicidal thoughts of like harming me and my kids.

Dalia 25:24

Oh no.

The Framework For Brave Conversations

Varsey Laurelle 25:25

And I remember God, who who's you know, my guide, just was like this moment of him just being like, okay, so this is where you where you got yourself. Can I have a turn? And I just I've been I have released control of my life ever since. I just I just tried after that. I mean, yeah, so I was yeah, so I ended up looking in the mirror at myself, literally. Yeah, you know, and kind of was just like, okay, girl, you cute, like, okay, this, you know, and then like moving, still looking and just busted out crying because it was the first time that I allowed myself to see all the things, you know, the ugly parts, like, oh yeah, well, you manipulated people, so that's how you got here. You know, you just telling people what they want to hear, you're not following it up by any action. Um you know, you fear has stopped you from doing everything, like you're terrified of everything, like, yeah, life has just been happening to you. And it was just this moment that I was like, okay, these things are true. And then self-forgiveness was the first thing I remember leaning into because I ashamed myself. Like, I remember I was on the poll with my mom one day, and I was just frustrated about something, and she heard me talking to myself out loud for the first time. She's like, Varsi, like, do you talk to yourself like that? And I was like, What? What are you talking about? She's like, You just said I was like, oh, that's I just I always say that. Um so it it I really went through a self-love journey that I'm still on. But I think a lot of it was forgiveness. I leaned into truth telling. Like I always said I had integrity, but child, I ain't had no integrity. It sounded good, but I didn't have any integrity. So leaning into, okay, but do you want integrity? All right, so let's lean into the opportunities that life gives you to be integral, right? Those hard decisions, the hard conversations, forgiving. And then from all the things that I did for myself, I started to treat others like that.

unknown 27:47

Right?

Varsey Laurelle 27:47

So now I now I'm forgiving, I'm forgiving myself, so I'm forgiving others. I'm loving myself, I'm loving others. I'm accepting myself, I'm accepting others. I'm telling the truth to myself, I'm telling the truth to others. Like, and it has just been a constant calibration of just trying to be more, would I say, just more spiritual and less flesh.

Dalia 28:11

How hard is that to balance your own healing when you have to navigate something so complex and emotionally tangling as divorce?

Varsey Laurelle 28:26

You know, I had to build in systems into my life, reflection systems or systems for myself, time with me and God, um saying no, having boundaries. Um, and then and then and then having grace with myself because this is you know how it is. It's not like a oh yeah, I'm on a path and it's always forward. No, honey. No, sometimes I will curse you out. Like if you push me too far, you're gonna get the old varsity. Like she's still in there. Um like, you know, so um it's hard.

Dalia 29:01

Yeah.

Varsey Laurelle 29:02

It's hard, and you know what, you know what makes it so hard that I'm still unpacking. I literally had this thought this morning. I'm still unpacking. Damn, I could be best friends with a tree.

unknown 29:15

You hear me?

Varsey Laurelle 29:16

Me and that tree could be tight. I'm borrowing leaves to make a dress, you know, I'm getting it water, like, but oh my god, this person that I married or that fell in love with, or decided to have kids with, hates me.

Dalia 29:32

Like, we can't be in community, like you can't you can't choose that.

Varsey Laurelle 29:41

Yeah.

Dalia 29:42

And you just have to live. I think that I think that uh this self love journey and this forgiveness journey and healing journey, I think it's something that all of us end up finding that we are are always going to be until we die. That's just once you start to realize you need to treat yourself really well, it's a it's a lifelong thing. You can't even really call it a journey. That is just life. And it's just well, it's the it's the it's the more peaceful, the more calm, the more community driven. Because you can only do what you can do when you are yourself at that spot. And you're there. You've reached that. You're in the BC part of your life in the good way. Where you pay it for now's when you pay it forward, like you said. And I'm sure it's opened up a ton of doors for you to help continue to pay it forward. That's your podcast, your newsletters, the work that you do now. Uh, it's just part of that journey. It's it's life.

Varsey Laurelle 30:46

I guess it's like I hate calling it a journey because it's life. Life is a journey, though. Life is the journey. I don't think you're saying it. But I'm saying journey is life. Yes, the journey is life. The journey is life.

Divorce As A Before-And-After Moment

Dalia 30:56

Yes, exactly. You and I can talk forever.

Varsey Laurelle 30:59

I know. I was like, dang, how is it dirty?

Dalia 31:01

It's already 30 minutes.

Varsey Laurelle 31:03

So we had to cut out the beginning, though.

Dalia 31:06

Yes, exactly. But that's why we're taking it for this next part. I end every episode exactly the same. And though the entire episode ends up being advice, uh what advice do you have to give, whether it be personal, professional, whether it be about life or whatnot? What advice can you give to the listeners that more than likely resonated with this episode that they can take and apply to themselves?

Varsey Laurelle 31:41

You are entirely up to you. I just saw it on Instagram. I was like, I'm witness on the wall. This is exceptional. You are entirely up to you. It's you, it's your life. Make it happen.

Dalia 32:02

Yeah, take control.

Varsey Laurelle 32:02

Do the work, lean in, stop blaming everyone, stop having excuses. You are entirely up to you. Go forth and conquer.

Dalia 32:12

What strikes me most about Farsay's story is her unflinching commitment to truth, even when that truth is uncomfortable, messy, or challenges everything she thought she knew about herself. Her understanding that we can't have deep connections without brave conversations speaks to something many of us avoid. Real intimacy requires real vulnerability. I'm particularly moved by her journey from a moment of wanting to give up to embracing radical self-forgiveness. Her reminder that self-love isn't a destination, but an ongoing practice, one that requires grace, reflection, and the willingness to keep showing up for yourself, offers hope for anyone in the middle of their own transformation. Barsa's advice to stop making excuses and take control of your life isn't harsh. It's empowering. It's the truth we sometimes need to hear from someone who's walked through the fire and come out stronger on the other side. Her work with organizations building bragworthy cultures rooted in trust and empathy is a direct reflection of the deep listening skills and authenticity she brings to every aspect of her life, from coaching executives to championing local communities. For those of you navigating difficult transitions, learning to set boundaries, or simply trying to figure out who you are beyond the roles you've been playing, Varset's story proves that the journey of self-discovery, while not always linear, is always worth it. Connect with Varset. Learn more about Varset Laurel Consulting and her transformational workshops. Listen to her podcasts, Recorded Vulnerabilities, where she normalizes human emotions through vulnerable conversations. Follow her journey as she continues hiking, traveling, and making an impact in communities. If this conversation resonated with you, here's how you can support the She Suite Society. You can subscribe and review. Leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Share this episode. You can send it to a friend who needs to hear the messages that we spread. Join our community or become a sponsor. Remember, SheSuite Society exists because of listeners like you who believe that women's authentic stories deserve to be heard and amplified. Until next time, this is your host Dahlia, reminding you that your life is your message to the world. Why not make it extraordinary?